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Post by stew on Jul 29, 2006 11:52:48 GMT -6
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Post by blazermaniac5 on Jul 29, 2006 14:33:32 GMT -6
I just finished watching the "Falls Count Anywhere Match" between Cheerleader Melissa & Ms. Chif. I totally agree with the review of Shimmer Volume 4. This match was AWESOME!!!!!! The abuse these two ladies take, especially Ms. Chif makes this match amazing.
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Post by edgecrusher on Jul 29, 2006 18:23:49 GMT -6
 I'm stunned that Fyfe and Hosaka had never teamed before. They've acted like best pals since the last DVD and had perfect chemistry. They just went up about three notches in my estimation.
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Post by haysihawk on Jul 31, 2006 11:37:20 GMT -6
I disagree with the argument that MsChif vs. Melissa "should've been the main event." Since SHIMMER is based on athleticism, in lieu of a title match to always headline the shows, a good solid technical match headlining is the next best thing. MsChif vs. Melissa was an amazing brawl, but it leaves the wrong impression this early on in the promotion's existence if a brawl is the main event. Plus, the Knox vs. Haze match set the stage for their 2 out of 3 falls match on Vol. 5, which was probably the best overall SHIMMER match yet. MsChif vs. Melissa III does main event Vol. 6 though, for those who feel they should be the headliners rather than Knox, Haze, Del Rey, etc.
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Post by stew on Jul 31, 2006 12:06:02 GMT -6
I disagree with the argument that MsChif vs. Melissa "should've been the main event." Since SHIMMER is based on athleticism, in lieu of a title match to always headline the shows, a good solid technical match headlining is the next best thing. MsChif vs. Melissa was an amazing brawl, but it leaves the wrong impression this early on in the promotion's existence if a brawl is the main event. Plus, the Knox vs. Haze match set the stage for their 2 out of 3 falls match on Vol. 5, which was probably the best overall SHIMMER match yet. MsChif vs. Melissa III does main event Vol. 6 though, for those who feel they should be the headliners rather than Knox, Haze, Del Rey, etc. See, you admitted yourself there that the Knox vs Haze match "set the stage" for their Vol 5 match. Main events should be the climax of the show - something that people are paying their money to see. Melissa vs MsChif was the big return match from their memorable clash on Vol 1. People -- including me -- have been waiting three DVDs (at six weeks between each release) to see that match. I want to see *it* be the focus of the show... not the beginnings of a new rivalry with Daizee and Rebecca. There's no disrespect meant to either Daizee or Rebecca, because I dearly love them both - but Melissa vs MsChif had the buildup, Melissa vs MsChif had the intensity, and Melissa vs MsChif delivered the goods. I'm not sure how desire, fighting spirit and intensity like Melissa and MsChif showed can give the so-called "wrong impression." Like I said, I'm not a fan of the ladies doing hardcore, nor do I want to see it on every show (in fact, that's one of the reasons I'm hesitant about bringing in LuFisto), but Melissa/MsChif was everything pro-wrestling is about, regardless of gender. Main events should also - in theory - be the best match of the show. Again, in my opinion, that was Melissa vs MsChif. I'm very pleased at the idea of the two main eventing SHIMMER Vol 6, and I hope both ladies (especially Melissa) main event many, many SHIMMER events to come. Everybody's entitled to their opinions, of course, and Daizee has done a sterling job of main eventing every show to date... but for me, on this night, I'd have closed the show with the showstopping Falls Count Anywhere match. |
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Post by michaelwayne on Aug 2, 2006 11:51:14 GMT -6
I'm inclined to agree. It really makes the main event look weak when they get upstaged by a match lower down the card. When you have the match of the night happen and it's not the main event, the main event becomes a letdown as it can't compare to the match in question.
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Post by teamblondagefan on Aug 3, 2006 0:39:12 GMT -6
Malia and Lexie both wrestled in AWA, or was it AAW? Oh well, forgot. But still, they are pretty familiar with each other in the ring.
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Post by edgecrusher on Aug 5, 2006 8:32:46 GMT -6
I disagree with the argument that MsChif vs. Melissa "should've been the main event." Since SHIMMER is based on athleticism, in lieu of a title match to always headline the shows, a good solid technical match headlining is the next best thing. MsChif vs. Melissa was an amazing brawl, but it leaves the wrong impression this early on in the promotion's existence if a brawl is the main event. Plus, the Knox vs. Haze match set the stage for their 2 out of 3 falls match on Vol. 5, which was probably the best overall SHIMMER match yet. MsChif vs. Melissa III does main event Vol. 6 though, for those who feel they should be the headliners rather than Knox, Haze, Del Rey, etc. That's silly. MsChif vs. Melissa was the best match on the card, ergo it should be the main event. SHIMMER isn't 'about' anything beyond women being great wrestlers. In fact I'd say the horrendous glut of technical wrestlers is working against it because half of them have almost zero chance of making an impression because they're all the same, only not as good as the main eventers. MsChif/Melissa was something totally different from what the previous three cards had to offer, and unsurprisingly it went down a storm. |
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Post by SHIMMER office on Aug 5, 2006 15:35:43 GMT -6
Well, if the argument to be made is that the best match on a show should be the main event... then, for example, should the Dragon Gate 6-man have main evented the ROH Supercard of Honor? I doubt many would agree that it should have, yet those same people would argue that it was the best match on that particular show.
Haysihawk is correct, the reason Daizee Haze vs. Rebecca Knox main evented Vol. 4 was because SHIMMER management made the decision to close the show with a solid technical match rather than a brawl. By the time Vol. 6 rolled around, the feud between MsChif and Cheerleader Melissa had progressed to the point that it had earned main event status.
Many fans like different matches for different reasons... I know a lot of people thought Del Rey vs. Martinez should've headlined Vol. 1 rather than Daizee vs. Lacey. After Vol. 5, a few commented to me that Knox vs. Daizee's 2 out of 3 falls match should've headlined Vol. 5 rather than Martinez vs. Del Rey. There are reasons behind card placement that may not be apparent at first glance... but overall it is our hope that no matter what the order of the matches are, you enjoy the matches for what each one brings to the table.
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Post by edgecrusher on Aug 6, 2006 21:35:03 GMT -6
Well, if the argument to be made is that the best match on a show should be the main event... then, for example, should the Dragon Gate 6-man have main evented the ROH Supercard of Honor? I doubt many would agree that it should have, yet those same people would argue that it was the best match on that particular show. Completely different in every imaginable way. There was no storyline behind the Dragon Gate match (that the ROH fans knew of) unlike the Strong/Danielson match which had been building for nearly eight months by that point if I remember correctly, and the Dragon Gate boys were loaned talent going home soon. Promoting them on their own in the main event would have been stupid. MsChif/Melissa, on the other hand, was between two SHIMMER girls and furthered the promotion's longest running storyline (as in it started on the first DVD and has kept rolling), whereas Haze/Knox was essentially a throw-together, set up at the end of the last DVD with Haze's challenge. Haysihawk is correct, the reason Daizee Haze vs. Rebecca Knox main evented Vol. 4 was because SHIMMER management made the decision to close the show with a solid technical match rather than a brawl. Well, obviously. THe reason wasn't being debated, just the merits of the choice itself. |
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