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Post by ratetankmark on Oct 20, 2015 10:15:06 GMT -6
Doing the same old ref cliches is one thing. But when in one of the most recent matches he reffeed, he literally watched Yumi Ohka hit someone repeatedly with a whip and also got blatantly kicked in the head to break up a count and he did nothing except shrug, that's too damn much for me to take. To hell with what the finish is supposed to be, call for the DQ. What's the point of having rules if breaking them has zero consequences? So yeah, Andy earned absolutely every second of those boos he got in my eyes. I actually completely disagree with this. If we're looking at a non pre-determined sport then your argument makes complete sense. But lets be real, the refs KNOW what the finish is. If they suddenly become logical and call for earned dq's it screws up Dave's finishes and chances are he's not too thrilled. The heat is all over the refs and that's TOTALLY the fault of the wrestlers here. Namely Saraya, Ohka, Melissa & Rhia who were too lazy? disrespectful? whatever adjective you want to use, to cheat the right way. Case in point - Ohka with the whip. You mean to tell me Melissa hasn't been around long enough to know to distract the ref so Ohka can do it? OR how about when they just decide to double team Xandra for 30 seconds right in front of the ref and THEN tell Andy to look at Spinelli who's just standing dumbly in the corner not doing a thing and Andy goes over to chew KC out? Yeah it makes Andy look stupid but its the wrestlers that did it, not Andy. Saraya holding a choke for 12 seconds because she cant be bothered to break the choke and re-apply it? So what happens, Percy the ref counts to 4 then stops because he EXPECTS the heel wrestler to do just that! Instead of the heels having all the heat its on the refs because the so-called "leader" veteran heels were too lazy to follow simple heel protocol. Completely and totally ridiculous. Would you really want Melissa or Saraya pissed off with you if you were the ref? Not having a go or anything but these seem like minor criticisms?
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Post by Stevie on Oct 20, 2015 13:56:55 GMT -6
Doing the same old ref cliches is one thing. But when in one of the most recent matches he reffeed, he literally watched Yumi Ohka hit someone repeatedly with a whip and also got blatantly kicked in the head to break up a count and he did nothing except shrug, that's too damn much for me to take. To hell with what the finish is supposed to be, call for the DQ. What's the point of having rules if breaking them has zero consequences? So yeah, Andy earned absolutely every second of those boos he got in my eyes. I actually completely disagree with this. If we're looking at a non pre-determined sport then your argument makes complete sense. But lets be real, the refs KNOW what the finish is. If they suddenly become logical and call for earned dq's it screws up Dave's finishes and chances are he's not too thrilled. The heat is all over the refs and that's TOTALLY the fault of the wrestlers here. Namely Saraya, Ohka, Melissa & Rhia who were too lazy? disrespectful? whatever adjective you want to use, to cheat the right way. Case in point - Ohka with the whip. You mean to tell me Melissa hasn't been around long enough to know to distract the ref so Ohka can do it? OR how about when they just decide to double team Xandra for 30 seconds right in front of the ref and THEN tell Andy to look at Spinelli who's just standing dumbly in the corner not doing a thing and Andy goes over to chew KC out? Yeah it makes Andy look stupid but its the wrestlers that did it, not Andy. Saraya holding a choke for 12 seconds because she cant be bothered to break the choke and re-apply it? So what happens, Percy the ref counts to 4 then stops because he EXPECTS the heel wrestler to do just that! Instead of the heels having all the heat its on the refs because the so-called "leader" veteran heels were too lazy to follow simple heel protocol. Completely and totally ridiculous. You are 100% correct. The wrestlers completely hung Andy out to dry and he did what he could to try to hold things together. If he had "called it as a shoot" then at least one of Yumi Ohka's matches would have ended after four seconds. I suspect Andy would not have been praised for doing so either.
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Post by Demonic Eeyore on Nov 9, 2015 9:31:00 GMT -6
I actually completely disagree with this. If we're looking at a non pre-determined sport then your argument makes complete sense. But lets be real, the refs KNOW what the finish is. If they suddenly become logical and call for earned dq's it screws up Dave's finishes and chances are he's not too thrilled. The heat is all over the refs and that's TOTALLY the fault of the wrestlers here. Namely Saraya, Ohka, Melissa & Rhia who were too lazy? disrespectful? whatever adjective you want to use, to cheat the right way. Case in point - Ohka with the whip. You mean to tell me Melissa hasn't been around long enough to know to distract the ref so Ohka can do it? OR how about when they just decide to double team Xandra for 30 seconds right in front of the ref and THEN tell Andy to look at Spinelli who's just standing dumbly in the corner not doing a thing and Andy goes over to chew KC out? Yeah it makes Andy look stupid but its the wrestlers that did it, not Andy. Saraya holding a choke for 12 seconds because she cant be bothered to break the choke and re-apply it? So what happens, Percy the ref counts to 4 then stops because he EXPECTS the heel wrestler to do just that! Instead of the heels having all the heat its on the refs because the so-called "leader" veteran heels were too lazy to follow simple heel protocol. Completely and totally ridiculous. Would you really want Melissa or Saraya pissed off with you if you were the ref? Not having a go or anything but these seem like minor criticisms? I don't think it is when you consider it's my main takeaway from 12 hours of wrestling.
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Post by Costa on Jun 27, 2016 19:53:03 GMT -6
I watched the Q&A via WWN and what I'm about to say may "upset" a few to say the least.
No disrespect intended but that was one of the WORST Q & A's I've ever watched. The wrestlers weren't that bad but fans....to quote Heath Ledger (RIP) what happened did your b@lls fall off?? Were you guys like intimidated or was it a case of "men have groupies, women have stalkers"?? Somebody PLEASE explain. If I was there, I would have asked some GOOOOOOOOOD questions. Nothing like vulgar or snide of course.
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