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Post by ratetankmark on Apr 20, 2015 14:51:17 GMT -6
Which member of the Shimmer roster is most likely to get a 'You Can't Wrestle' chant?
Judging by reactions to her matches I'm genuinely waiting for the taping where Melissa gets that chanted at her; albeit I just want her to flash that troll grin that she does for her introduction in response.
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Post by stevea21 on Apr 20, 2015 15:17:42 GMT -6
After her matches this past Shimmer weekend - ESPECIALLY her match with AKINO - one would have to be a true troll to chant such a thing to Melissa
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Post by ratetankmark on Apr 20, 2015 15:21:12 GMT -6
After her matches this past Shimmer weekend - ESPECIALLY her match with AKINO - one would have to be a true troll to chant such a thing to Melissa I was thinking more after her Chickfight match with Havok when a lot of people weren't happy with her performance. She's apparently got a really sharp wit so she could probably have improvised a response to those kinda chants.
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Post by Woo on Apr 20, 2015 15:33:36 GMT -6
After her matches this past Shimmer weekend - ESPECIALLY her match with AKINO - one would have to be a true troll to chant such a thing to Melissa I was thinking more after her Chickfight match with Havok when a lot of people weren't happy with her performance. She's apparently got a really sharp wit so she could probably have improvised a response to those kinda chants. Damn why does that sharp wit not factor into her promos? I did just see the one where she turned down Lufi's title request and that was actually one of her better ones to date so far actually. Nobody will get those chants. Anne Brookstone didn't get them, nobody else will.
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Post by ratetankmark on Apr 20, 2015 15:36:22 GMT -6
I was thinking more after her Chickfight match with Havok when a lot of people weren't happy with her performance. She's apparently got a really sharp wit so she could probably have improvised a response to those kinda chants. Damn why does that sharp wit not factor into her promos? I did just see the one where she turned down Lufi's title request and that was actually one of her better ones to date so far actually. Nobody will get those chants. Anne Brookstone didn't get them, nobody else will. I don't know. Whenever she does her Independent Women skits for Diva Dirt they're always pretty cool to see and Melissa seems a lot more natural and quick-witted and yet when it comes time for her to actually do an official promo she becomes rigid and wooden.
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Post by Stevie on Apr 21, 2015 0:25:29 GMT -6
What a stupid thread.
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Post by Demonic Eeyore on Apr 23, 2015 9:02:29 GMT -6
You know I get along with you on here Rate but why the insistant perpetuation of the myth Melissa is somehow washed up? I truly don't get this. Is she older? Yes. A bit slower? Yes. Does she need to eat a sandwich or three? Yes. But she's Cheerleader Freaking Melissa. You can't measure what she's brought to and meant to Shimmer since the inception. Her matches this weekend were perfectly acceptable, even the snooze fest that Melissa vs. Thunderkitty but that was hardly her fault. If Melissa has a dud or two what do people expect? That she's perfect every time out? She has earned more than one pass if she needs it. Where I was sitting there was even a brief "Die Melissa Die" chant. WTF?! How did this happen? There was a time no wrestler male or female was more over in the Eagles Club. And now this? Makes no sense. None at all.
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Post by Demonic Eeyore on Oct 20, 2015 8:52:27 GMT -6
Wow...hey I tell you what, after this last set of tapings plus seeing volume 68-71 for the first time I have to COMPLETELY apologize to you Rate. To use a horrible pun I've been a solid "cheerleader" for Melissa on here forever. Not my favorite but probably none more respected but this last set of tapings where she was just going thru the motions, not even bothering to distract the ref so Ohka could use a foreign object...blah. Not to mention her end of the show run-out. Doubt it was "a shoot" as someone suggested but still way way unnecessary expecially with a beer bottle in her hand. Her vol. 71 matches in Cali? Atrocious beyond words. What REALLY got me mad to the point of swearing at the tv was her title loss where she took hellbound, then the Vancouver Maneuver THEN stood straight up to take the O-Face. Got pinned, then popped right back up not selling a single thing. Are you freaking kidding me?? IF that was how it was booked, well.... not a fan let's just say. But to disrespect the finishes of all 3 ladies like that is beyond stupid. LOGICALLY she should have taken the O-Face first since she'd be standing, then Eagles pushes Athena, hits the Hellbound. Then Nicole pushes Eagles picks her up and hits the VM. Athena pushes Nicole and then pins Melissa and HAVE HER SELL THE DAMN MOVES! After viewing all those shows in the last 2 weeks lost any and all respect for her and have no issues at all with booing and catcalling if not flat out ignoring her matches like she was Cruise or Spinelli. Ugh.
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Post by ratetankmark on Oct 20, 2015 10:07:47 GMT -6
Wow...hey I tell you what, after this last set of tapings plus seeing volume 68-71 for the first time I have to COMPLETELY apologize to you Rate. To use a horrible pun I've been a solid "cheerleader" for Melissa on here forever. Not my favorite but probably none more respected but this last set of tapings where she was just going thru the motions, not even bothering to distract the ref so Ohka could use a foreign object...blah. Not to mention her end of the show run-out. Doubt it was "a shoot" as someone suggested but still way way unnecessary expecially with a beer bottle in her hand. Her vol. 71 matches in Cali? Atrocious beyond words. What REALLY got me mad to the point of swearing at the tv was her title loss where she took hellbound, then the Vancouver Maneuver THEN stood straight up to take the O-Face. Got pinned, then popped right back up not selling a single thing. Are you freaking kidding me?? IF that was how it was booked, well.... not a fan let's just say. But to disrespect the finishes of all 3 ladies like that is beyond stupid. LOGICALLY she should have taken the O-Face first since she'd be standing, then Eagles pushes Athena, hits the Hellbound. Then Nicole pushes Eagles picks her up and hits the VM. Athena pushes Nicole and then pins Melissa and HAVE HER SELL THE DAMN MOVES! After viewing all those shows in the last 2 weeks lost any and all respect for her and have no issues at all with booing and catcalling if not flat out ignoring her matches like she was Cruise or Spinelli. Ugh. You don't need to apologise man; It's your opinion and I respect that. People do have off-days (or off-weekends). I think if she keeps having mediocre tapings then I won't be so fair to Melissa. Although I hope that this is just Melissa becoming Shimmer's Naito of not-giving-a-damn because, in all honesty, why should she care about anything that isn't the main event? She's been Shimmer Champion twice, is the only Shimmer OG still wrestling on a consistent basis. She's done everything bar win the Shimmer Tag Team Championships, so why should she give a damn when she's facing people like Thunderkitty for example. Why should it matter when she doesn't have the respect of the fans Respect is nice and all but it doesn't pay the bills and it doesn't keep a roof over your head.
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Post by DJWeedPizza on Oct 21, 2015 1:41:32 GMT -6
Melissa takes the O-Face last because Athena gets the straight pin, hence setting up the feud and Athena pinning the champ yet not winning the title. Sometimes wrestling has to stretch the logic to tell a better story.
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Post by ratetankmark on Oct 21, 2015 2:45:47 GMT -6
Melissa takes the O-Face last because Athena gets the straight pin, hence setting up the feud and Athena pinning the champ yet not winning the title. Sometimes wrestling has to stretch the logic to tell a better story. This; Also Athena benefitted from the boost of beating the then-Shimmer Champion that neither Nicole or Madison needed and Melissa couldn't actually beat herself.
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Post by The Throwing Rock on Oct 31, 2015 20:29:52 GMT -6
Nicole Matthews!
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Post by Demonic Eeyore on Nov 9, 2015 9:27:09 GMT -6
Melissa takes the O-Face last because Athena gets the straight pin, hence setting up the feud and Athena pinning the champ yet not winning the title. Sometimes wrestling has to stretch the logic to tell a better story. This; Also Athena benefitted from the boost of beating the then-Shimmer Champion that neither Nicole or Madison needed and Melissa couldn't actually beat herself. I'm just saying you can still accomplish the same thing by having Nicole hit the MAneuver, then Athena knocks her out of the way and pins Melissa just the same. She still sets up the pin and Melissa isn't suddenly Andre The Freaking Giant taking 104 finishers and no selling but whatever I guess...
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Post by ratetankmark on Nov 14, 2015 10:19:23 GMT -6
This; Also Athena benefitted from the boost of beating the then-Shimmer Champion that neither Nicole or Madison needed and Melissa couldn't actually beat herself. I'm just saying you can still accomplish the same thing by having Nicole hit the MAneuver, then Athena knocks her out of the way and pins Melissa just the same. She still sets up the pin and Melissa isn't suddenly Andre The Freaking Giant taking 104 finishers and no selling but whatever I guess... I kinda viewed it as happening fairly early on in the match so Melissa would have had more fight left in her than she would have if it was in the final few minutes of the bout; hence why she was able to kick out.
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Post by Demonic Eeyore on Nov 17, 2015 9:10:18 GMT -6
But to kick out of all three of them in succession? Come on now. I've been a practitioner of the fine art of suspending disbelief for 31 years now and even I couldn't buy that one. But what's done is done.
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