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Post by themib on Nov 27, 2010 18:00:04 GMT -6
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Post by Jason on Nov 27, 2010 20:16:14 GMT -6
Interesting, NXT had a chance, but the WWE Blew up with too many stupid competitions and stuff and not enough Wrestling.
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Post by rainlee on Nov 27, 2010 20:47:43 GMT -6
Voted!
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Post by Stevie on Nov 28, 2010 4:51:34 GMT -6
FYI you can vote once a day.
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Post by themib on Nov 28, 2010 8:34:51 GMT -6
Annie's now in the Top 6, we keep this going, WWE will look at her at least.
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Post by adamrocks2010 on Nov 28, 2010 8:49:07 GMT -6
I voted for her again.
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Post by John Hyperion on Nov 28, 2010 10:33:43 GMT -6
It's good that WWE has seemed to smarten up a bit. One of the requirements for application is video of you training or wrestling. There's no reason for them to accept anyone untrained or unprepared to go onto the main roster the day after the show ends. The Ultimate Fighter has been such a huge, WWE crushing, success because it creates stars that are ready to fight on real UFC shows and PPVs immediately. They should also get some coaches that people actually care about and work an angle between them. It might be the way to make people willing to drop major money on Cena vs HHH again the same way TUF 1 made people buy Shamrock vs Ortiz.
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Post by freaky on Nov 28, 2010 10:41:33 GMT -6
I disagree with working an angle inbetween trainers. Once you start manipulating it more than reality shows already do to a certain extent, you're moving away from it being about the trainees and more about the wrestlers.
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Post by Woo on Nov 28, 2010 10:42:58 GMT -6
I voted for the lovely Miss Social too. Hope she gets a chance.
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Post by Ryan on Nov 28, 2010 10:52:04 GMT -6
I disagree with working an angle inbetween trainers. Once you start manipulating it more than reality shows already do to a certain extent, you're moving away from it being about the trainees and more about the wrestlers. UFC setting up "angles" (if you want to call them that in MMA) on TUF has made them millions of dollars on pay per view bouts between the coaches, and it's not handicapped their ability to make stars out of the contestants on the show. I see zero reason why WWE couldn't use the same formula. There have been some things that Hyperion and I have disagreed on during our time here, but I also think he's spot on about getting recruits with some wrestling experience for the show. I remember watching the original Tough Enough and following the WWF during the time, and that show made Maven Huffman into a HUGE star, both with existing wrestling fans and among people he was picking up from MTV who had never really watched wrestling before. The problem was that he didn't have the chops to be used as a regular character on WWF programming after the reality show ended, so basically they created this big star that they got absolutely nothing out of aside from whatever rights fees they picked up from airing Tough Enough. |
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Post by John Hyperion on Nov 28, 2010 11:03:06 GMT -6
I disagree with working an angle inbetween trainers. Once you start manipulating it more than reality shows already do to a certain extent, you're moving away from it being about the trainees and more about the wrestlers. As Ryan said, TUF has managesd to do both for the past, 11, 12?! seasons without any problem. It's really a scandal as people often describe the TUF coaching wars as "WWE like" angles, but WWE itself wasn't smart enough to do it when they had their own show. Sidenote: It cannot be overstated how successful TUF was with UFC. The company would not exist today without it. If WWE does this right there is some chance that it could turn a lot of things around for them. I'd book the whole thing around Tyler Black, myself. He's an interesting, likeable, good looking guy that you could toss him on the main event of the next PPV the day after if you wanted. The same can be said about a lot of SHIMMERers on the female side of things. |
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Post by Ryan on Nov 28, 2010 12:13:14 GMT -6
Sidenote: It cannot be overstated how successful TUF was with UFC. The company would not exist today without it. If WWE does this right there is some chance that it could turn a lot of things around for them. We'll see. The one advantage that UFC had with TUF that WWE does not have with Tough Enough is that TUF was put on immediately after Raw, meaning that for the first season there was an incredibly strong lead-in with a lot of viewers from the same target demographic. TUF probably wouldn't have been nearly as popular as it was if not for their being able to syphon off of the existing WWE fanbase. Unless something happens that I'm not expecting, this new incarnation of Tough Enough will only have the existing WWE fans to draw from, and, given how much TV exposure WWE already has, an extra thirty minutes of wrestling content per week will be a hard sell unless it's very well done. (Look at how many people gave up on NXT once it proved to be just another show.) |
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Post by themib on Nov 28, 2010 12:36:55 GMT -6
Tough Enough will be after RAW. The key is how many fans will stay around once RAW is over.
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Post by Ryan on Nov 28, 2010 12:52:19 GMT -6
Tough Enough will be after RAW. The key is how many fans will stay around once RAW is over. If TNA Reaction is any indication, few. |
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Post by profchaos on Nov 28, 2010 16:15:31 GMT -6
I don't really understand the point of Reaction. It doesn't air in the UK and I don't care enough to pirate it, but from what I understand it's meant to be "realistic" (ie worked shoot) interviews with wrestlers capturing their reaction to what just happened, talking the whole show. So how's that different from Impact? Tough Enough might garner more ratings after Raw because it actually will be differnt, although isn't it quite late after Raw finishes?
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