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Post by stew on Oct 28, 2008 12:01:59 GMT -6
One thing from a purely technical standpoint that is worth mentioning here that stood out a mile to me at the last show (which was my first chance to see Serena live) was how utterly awesome her punching is.
I've seen enough poor elbows and half-assed punching in womens matches in general that the snap and intensity of Deeb's comeback punches against SDR totally made my afternoon. Kudos to Rip Rogers at OVW for that, I guess. Just tremendous.
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Post by slickwooric on Oct 28, 2008 19:03:33 GMT -6
Serena's jabs are incredible,and have been since she started Shimmer. I don't think anyone (in Shimmer) throws a better jab,and don't even get me started on those super sweet arm drags!! I've always wanted to see Melissa as the champ,but after Vol 21&22...I'm a bit torn these days.
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Post by MC LevaMark on Oct 28, 2008 23:41:25 GMT -6
I'd have to agree. Serena throws punches better than most in the sport, male or female.
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Post by LardWarriorELPS on Oct 29, 2008 0:35:15 GMT -6
I think her jabs especially work when she's selling leg work. With a forearm you kind of have to keep moving in towards them, so she'd have to keep taking a second to between them to sell the leg. With the jab, she can stay in place and keep them up. I also love how on the last jab, she grabbed Del Rey's jaw and then jabbed so it made it seem more like a knockout punch.
I also love that sense of realism she adds when someone has her in a submission in the middle of the ring. Instead of simply going to one rope, she keeps looking at multiple ropes for which one's closest. It adds extra urgency, and really makes you believe she's going to have to submit.
At first I was thinking Mschif/Serena was gonna be weird, because both are decidedly comeback queens(If you see their ROH tag match against the Dangerous Angels, you'll see what problems that can cause.) However, after looking through some of Mschif's non-Shimmer matches, I noticed she's really good at taking it to a smaller girl with giant lariats, elbows, and innovative submissions. I can't wait for the match to happen(-=^.^=-)
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Post by MC LevaMark on Oct 29, 2008 0:55:33 GMT -6
It will be an awesome spectacle to be certain.
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Post by LardWarriorELPS on Nov 10, 2008 16:47:11 GMT -6
Please tell me she got a better reaction on volumes 21 & 22. On volumes 19 & 20 you could almost hear crickets when she walked out. It felt like the crowd was almost kind of judging her for getting plastic surgery.
Also, I friggin' love her diving clothesline. She get so much momentum off the second ropes and it looks extremely legit.
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Post by Shanti on Nov 10, 2008 17:00:25 GMT -6
Please tell me she got a better reaction on volumes 21 & 22. On volumes 19 & 20 you could almost hear crickets when she walked out. It felt like the crowd was almost kind of judging her for getting plastic surgery. Also, I friggin' love her diving clothesline. She get so much momentum off the second ropes and it looks extremely legit. I think someone said she got a good reaction at the last tapings. But I don't think they would be judging her because she got implants. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Ashley and Naveah (or atleast one of them) have implants? And they get pretty good reactions.
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Post by LardWarriorELPS on Nov 10, 2008 17:05:44 GMT -6
Please tell me she got a better reaction on volumes 21 & 22. On volumes 19 & 20 you could almost hear crickets when she walked out. It felt like the crowd was almost kind of judging her for getting plastic surgery. Also, I friggin' love her diving clothesline. She get so much momentum off the second ropes and it looks extremely legit. I think someone said she got a good reaction at the last tapings. But I don't think they would be judging her because she got implants. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Ashley and Naveah (or atleast one of them) have implants? And they get pretty good reactions. She also got a nose job, but I was just thinking that since she did it after being in Shimmer and whatnot. But I dunno, I couldn't think of another reason they'd go from giving her great pop as recently as the 15/16 tapings, and then suddenly stop giving her so much as a "w00t."
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Post by MC LevaMark on Nov 11, 2008 2:18:02 GMT -6
I also couldn't figure out the lack of enthusiasm for Serena on Volume 19 & 20. Especially since she came out of the gate with intense babyface fire that should have been enough to generate a very respectible pop.
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Post by G-Reg on Nov 11, 2008 7:15:51 GMT -6
I forgot how the reaction was at the start of Vol 21, but the place was ready to erupt for Vol 22 in her match, and it did when she won.
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Post by Stevie on Nov 11, 2008 9:18:05 GMT -6
I forgot how the reaction was at the start of Vol 21, but the place was ready to erupt for Vol 22 in her match, and it did when she won. Yes, it was "Goldberg over Hogan in the Dome" loud when she finally beat Del Ray. Hyperbole perhaps but it gave me goosebumps anyway, to the point I remember thinking "There's your next big thing right there".
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Post by LardWarriorELPS on Nov 11, 2008 11:52:14 GMT -6
That sounds awesome. I can't wait for her vs (hopefully heel) Melissa. I mean you have the quintessential baby face in Serena vs The ultimate bear mauler in Melissa. Doesn't get any better than that.
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Post by Larry Otto on Nov 11, 2008 15:14:05 GMT -6
i don't think her getting surgery affected how people feel about her. as some have said, Ashley Lane and Nevaeh both have implants, and no one seems to care. as far as her pop on volumes 19 and 20 go, i don't think a lot of the fans knew who she was, and thankfully those same jerk fans didn't seem to be around at the last taping. Personally i think her new look works for her, and it doesnt seem like its changed her personality inside or out of the ring.
J
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Post by LardWarriorELPS on Nov 11, 2008 18:27:21 GMT -6
I'm hoping so, but it just felt like they thought she was turning her back on Shimmer or something. I mean even though Shimmer's trying to be anti-diva, it's not on a Superficial basis, but on an actually being able to wrestle basis. But I'm really hoping it's just something like maybe a lot of Del Rey fans were there, and were like "Why the **** is she facing some curtain jerker, instead of being in a title match.".....though that would mean I'd be hoping she had fans which is total lol I do think she needs new gear, though. Her old gear was great, but naturally stopped fitting after the implants. I can't blame her though, she can't have too much money after not only paying for the surgery, but also with the WWE cutting ties with OVW.
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Post by SHIMMER office on Nov 12, 2008 15:58:43 GMT -6
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